Saturday, January 10, 2009

^V^ Wow $$$ 4 mil offer by sour seng ! Ah seng n ah cow , is my results hurt both of u so much ? ha ha ^V^







Wowww.. Is my results hurt both u so much ? Y u 2 get so mad on me ? is it bcos yr loyal followers like ck5354, Dylan, ccdev, newbies n ivtac shifted their support to samblog ? ha ha . anyway, I need to thanks u 4 granting me such an opportunity to show off my sweety bank passbook which i kept it in my safe 4 more than 15 years .ha ha thanks to sour seng n ah cow , if not bcos of u 2, i hv no excuse to show off my old achievement ! this is really sweet..whenever i recall back those sweet memory in 1993.. my smile came out automatically from my heart ! it is like dancing with lin chi ling with a cup of volkar.. so so sweet ^V^

D below r what his sour critics on me :-

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Samgoss beats Buffett returns in Past 16 Years?

1. 16 years ago, Berkshire stock traded around $9,000 per share.

2. Last night, it traded at $94,000.

3. This means that Berkshire stock has grown by approximately 10 times, or 1,000% over the last 16 years.

4. And since Berkshire doesn't pay dividends, never sells his shares and has over 99.9% of his net worth in Berkshire, this means that Buffett himself has "only" managed to obtained approximately 1,000% returns over in the past 16 years.

5. Samgoss on the other hand - if I recalled correctly - claimed that over the last 16 years, his returns was 1,500%! Yes, the link is here - http://samgang.blogspot.com/2008/04/v-299returns-in-26-months-what-is-so.html

If an external auditor can vouch and certify that this is true, then, I will be most impressed.

Otherwise, it's all just backhand, forehand, left hand, right hand, side spin talk and childish nonsense from Samgoss only isn't it for the last 2 years? *grin*


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My answer to sour seng :-

First of all, did I ever said I beat warren buffet in my posting ? where ? don’t twist d story ..ok ? ..come back to my 1,500% returns in 16 years …K..let me teach u what is 1 + 1 = 2 lar ha ha… I started my shares investment in 1992 with initial capital of 12K+ , as known to u guys, 1993 is a super bull year , KLCI rose from 450 to 1,314 within a year , Idris shot up from RM 0.50+- to RM8.80, same goes to Aokam from RM0.80 to RM 16.00+, repco >RM100 ! for one to make millions or >1000% returns in 1993 is definitely not a problem ( ask those old birds who involved in 1993 if u doubt ) ! Hence , I hv made about 135K+_ in that particular year !

12K to 135K -= >10 times or > 1000% ! ( see d attached picture). So..what is so difficult 4 me to achieve another 500% returns from 1995 to 2007 ? look at my 2007 result , this year alone I hv acheieved about 299% returns ( as per attached picture ) ! so ..is that so difficult to make 1500% returns in 16 years ?? ha ha … as I said , y d length of our fingers r not d same (十个手指有长短)!? y some can be so rich y some cant ? y some can be doctor n lawyer , y some cannot ? sour seng ohh sour seng , u cant do it doesn’t mean we can't do it oso ! faham ? ha ha

Bear in mind, in 1993, I was only 24+, just completed my study n fresh from oven , 135 K is not a small sum !

How ? still not convincing enough ? perhaps I need to show u my FDs to u liaoo ? ha ha..but then , do i owes u this (俺欠你的吗 )? ha ha * Grin*

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A $4 Million Proposal to Samgoss

Ok. Let's give Sam a chance to prove he is genuine.

If Sam is willing, then, let me make this simple business proposal publicly.

To kick start this, I only require Sam to do one very simple thing.

Even a teenage child can do this.

All Sam have to do is to write to me to let me know this:

1. His full name
2. His I/C number
3. His contact number
4. The names of the banking and security firms he traded with over the past 16 years that generated 1,500% return.
5. Be ready to sign a document that would authorize an external auditor to investigate and audit his investing record over the past 16 years. I expect 100% cooperation from Sam and no childish nonsense.

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My answer to sour seng :-

Woww 4 million offer from sour seng wor !?? OMG ! I couldn’t believe myself that such a childish proposal came out from a 60 years +old man like u ! no wonder u went in gpacket @4.50, oskv1 @ 2.80 n all d china call warrants lar !?? ha ha

Fyi, U think I hv never seen 4 million b4 ar ? .. write to u my IC , contact numbers n full name ? ha ha… what a joke ! do I owes u all these (俺欠你的吗 )? come on seng ! be mature abit lah !

Talking about my integrity , this is one of seng loyal follower windsurfer 's comment on me at seng blog d other day :-

(((((((((((((
Windsurfer: i know Samgoss for long time ago ... actually it was through the OSK forum ... back then the website was stock188.com i think ... Samgoss appear in the forum preaching Fundametalist approach to picking stock ... i think i was in 2001 or 2002 ... back then the market was very slow ... i mean REALLY SLOW ....

Windsurfer: so back then i was just starting to invest (play) stock ... so alot of things dunno ... ask alot of stupid questions( i still do) ... so i started to follow Sam's pick ... because his reasoning was acceptable to me ... fundamental approach... looking PE ... things like that ... as he also made enemies in stock188 forum as well ... these are mostly TA people...

Windsurfer: I make some money from Sam's pick, some notible great calls was YTL-WB, IJM, PARKSON, JUSCO, LIONDIV. I believe that Samgoss is geniune, i believe that he has no intention or that he is manipulating anybody, most of his psycho fan follow him because his track record is very good . ))))))))))))))))

Hello seng , d above is what yr loyal fan commetted about me , do u feel hurt again ? still think that uncle sam is a con man whose want to make use of his fans for his own benefit ? come on seng ! i know it is very painful to see yr loyal fan telling d truth about me ..it is nothing but true ! no matter how sour u r , u cant change d facts !

K..since u wanna to beat me so much.. let me give u another chance , besides my Ytlpowerwb @ 0.49 vs yr Proton @ 2.00 , let start it all over again , u create yr portfolio n I create mine with initial capital of 100K with effect from 12 Jan 2009 , let see who is better by 12 Jan 2010 !? BUTTTT make sure u show us yr forehand calls with attached picture like what I did ! dare ? ? ha ha I really doubt u dare !

I need to borrow yr statement here again :-

And to all of "Seng's supporters":

I don't want to hear any more childish nonsense on anything else!

All I want to hear from you is why your "sifu" did not accept my challenge ?

Lastly, to those silent readers out there ? pls do me a favour , pls show yr support to sour seng n ah cow’s blog lah… they were so frustrated seeing u guys giving yr support to samblog only ! pity them abit lah ^V^

Calm down seng, calm down ! Jgn marah yah ^V^ * Grin *

2 tcg82 n all , thanks 4 yr support ... from his above critics, u can see seng is running out of bullets liaoo... give him a break bros... btw, i am doubt that seng dare to take up my challenge , anyone wanna to bet ? ha ha *Grin *

37 comments:

Unknown said...

I am only 25 and i am sure i am not as childish as that. ^^

So hai betul si ah seng ni...

Nvm la... Let's yum seng to glory ok Sifu? ^^

tcg82 said...

bro sam,
i've been pasting a few short comments here and will continue to do so
whoever say or do what, there is always karma
do please continue with your forehand calls for newbies and oldies alike hahaha
you have my support on both counts of credibility and integrity
omitabha and god bless

Samgoss said...

2 tcg82 n all , thanks 4 yr support ... u can see seng is running out of bullets liaoo... anyway, i hv to thanks him 4 granting me such an opportunity to show off my sweety bank passbook which i kept it 4 more than 15 years in my safe..ha ha thanks to sour seng n ah cow , if not bcos u 2, i hv no excuse to show off my old achievement ! this is really sweet..whenever i recall back those sweet memory in 1993.. my smile came out automatically from my heart ! it is like dancing with lin chi ling with a cup of volkar.. so so sweet ^V^

Seng n ah cow , u 2 Wanna to taste it ? sorry bro.. yr finger is not long enough ! *GRIN *

Yah guys, anyone wanna to bet? , I doubt seng dare to accpet my challenge ! anyone ?

HC said...

wow sifu sam, can't believe you made 135k+ from share market in one year!!! hope i have half of your 功力 as well... haha

anyway you should show off your bank passbook to shut the mouth of ah seng ah cow or whoever... haha

regards,
your loyal blog reader

CPO Trader said...

Ha, ha, ha...... Unker Sam......let him be...... real stupid way to cover his own backside.

He dare to accept your challenge? Haha, dream on lar......

Unknown said...

Sifu Sam

I 100% support and believe you.
Seng be a man dare to take the challenge.

Silence Follower From Sarawak,

Ling

kikilala said...

Sifu Sam,

Wow.ah seng fatt lan za already.but I will alw support u and pls continue ur forehand calls.btw i dunno ah seng will dare accept ur challenge anot.if he does tis will be like john woo's 赤壁:决战天下。Sifu Sam sure is king of eat brain, 诸葛亮。
but can any1 tell me ah seng is who???

det said...

Hi Sam,

As u know, i seldom comment about this Ah Seng openly ..But this time really 'beh tahan liao'...

My 1st respond to his request for your personal details is :- this fella really 'chi ma ken', his nerve cell must b connected wrongly ...blame Sam lol bcos u hurt his nerve ..LOLLLLzzzzz

Other than laugh ..only thing i would like to tell Ah Seng is :- If you were a grape and I put you in my mouth, I would spit you out because you were a sour grape.

thebigbang said...

what do u expect from a chatbox full of cartoons and kids?

mindstorm said...

Hmm.. just a silent observer's comment. I think there is a big difference in trading with own money and other's ppl money. With pressure to perform every year, i think the judgement in picking stocks would be clouded. I do not know wheather Sam is fake or not. But not taking up the challenge(seng's) doesn't proof he is fake.

Unknown said...

Sour seng's proposal is such an open and obvious trap, he thinks people are stupid. I mean, who would give your IC to a complete stranger.

For a 60 year old, he must have a big chip on his shoulder. At this stage of your life, i would think that you would stop playing this kind of games and have better wisdom.

Oh well, as Sam said... not everyone's fingers are the same size and length. Hence, over your life time ppl learn and grow differently.

All this is fueled by jealousy, nothing else.

okating said...

Buon giorno

Dear sam, from yr posting, we can see u are such a highly intelligent guy . u know how to tackle seng , u know how to use people strength for yr own good.

no wonder u can be so successful in shares investment.

btw, u have to thanks moolah also for bringing more people to know yr blog , once they get in here , they will never leave this blog anymore, it seems like moolah is siding seng, to me..i think it is the other way round, he is actually helping u to make seng like a fool.

Both of u are highly intelligent , really pity seng for being the sole victim of this net battle.

impressionante ! impressionante !

118 said...

$ifu, u r 诸葛亮 n Seng is 曹操, seem like he is applying 激降法 to trap u into a battle call 赤壁之战. He had lost all his reputation n hence nothing to lose. And he could regain everything should he manage to win over u in tis "battle". So it's better to avoid d challenge coz tat is a 小人之计也.
To deal v him, 宜斗智而不宜斗气
So juz ignore him n continue making
$$$$ in share market. Ur fans will definately on ur side.
Lastly, don't miss d M'sian Open Fianal oh ! Hope Datuk LCW could win d title.

ws said...

sam,

u know wat i think? take his challenge, charge kau them 5% per annum and on top of that 10% on every profit you made. you follow his term and condition only? no fair lor, he must also follow ur T&C.

Anonymous said...

y not seng and cow reveal yours particular first? childish idea...

Ronan said...

I don know this Mr Seng, but it seems like he is not mature enough! asking for full name, IC and contact #?? OMG!!

MR said...

Hahahahah,

Bro Sam,

I told you already, you keep on cocok the cow geng till they cannot tahan.. but your EQ very keng, you know how to push the right buttons, now they react.. very childish.. hahaha

I followed your picks and can honestly say that i made some money from, not much la, very small player. But still money ma..

Again Thanks Bro Sam, let the cows moooooooooo all they want... you stay cool man..

Cheers
MR

Angel -vs- Devil said...

Hi Sam, I follow you because u really give the best forehand call and we indeed profit a lot from your call.
I don't think it is necessary for u to show ur bank passbook,it is very sensitive anyway.
After all, the fact is we are making money because of Sam.

alfred said...

you got our support sam.

that stupid seng really think ppl owe him, ordering ppl to give him personal detail...lol

think he's some kind of isa or goverment agent. expect ppl to give out anything he wanna know with his command.

i guess human wisdom tend to shrink when reach certain age, or only seng. lol

and i would say that the childish seng got no ball to take up uncle sam's challenge. ^^

Eric Kang said...

Hi Sifu Sam,
Can I know your opinion on TM?
Currrently trading at RM3...
most of the GLC counters moving already...UEMLand, Tenaga.
Thanks.

Regards,
Eric

Samgoss said...

Gd morning..I am still waiting 4 seng 's reply..seng chicken out ? ha ha..expected lah..

k..back to biz..2 eric..TM @ 3.00+ is quite a good bargain buy.. nta 3.02 , PE ard 9+- + glc counter also.. not bad not bad.. 4 d time being , I hv enough liao.. I dont think i want to load up somemore 4 my portfolio cos this week is not week 4 purchase..it is time 4 u to take profit!

Yah b4 i forget.. just wonder if someone claimed that he doesnt click on my web.. how come he knows we are talking about him ? ha ha anyway..who cares ? i think he needs ppl to click on his blog more than seng cos he need to cari makan thru his advertisment in his web! may be newbies can answer this 4 us ^V^

Samgoss said...

2 lee, to show off my saving passbook is to make them more envy !ha ha ! how can they trace with d deleted account no ?

Told u guys oledi..I am a very kuai lan bugger ! if u treat me well..i will treat u even better ! If u envy on my results, I will make u more envy ! that's me !

Sorry ..i think i am abit too aggressive liaoo..but then ,,I AM STILL WHAT I AM !

thanks ah cow 4 paying so much attention on my blog.. u need more advertisment ? i hv lot of sponsors asking 4 space in my blog..u need some ? i can help u if u want ^V^

Samgoss said...

Sold 5 lots of UEMLAND @ 0.77 ! balance left behind 17 lots..

4 those uemland holders, dont 4get to take profit along d rise ^V^

happy trading ^V^

Eric Kang said...

Hi Sifu Sam,
Thanks for your advice on TM.
I will only sell when it reaches 3.3.

TANG'S said...

Bro Sam,
Really envy u lo to earn so much in 1 year times. Please help to advise whether i can keep all my shares like parkson, Dialog and IOI which are still in loses. Or i need to sell during before Chinese New Year. Thanks for your opinion..

Unknown said...

Asking for full name, IC no and contact is SO SO LAME... ><"

OMG...do u owe him anithing?! U got take his money?! Damn stupid thing...makes me wanna laugh my d*ck off....wut a joke tis seng kor or whoeva he is....

Aniway, HappiE NIU YeaR to ALL YA!!!!!

Law said...

真金不怕红炉火
Readers eventually will know who is true and who is fake...

Cheers

elizabeth said...

Dear Sam,

Happy new year! Couldnt believe Seng's article when I read it this morning... haha... wonder what u did to make him so angry that he hilang akal and wrote that challenge...

I hve been a visitor to your blog for under a year, and suppose to be on your mailing list (which incidentally, long time no news... hehe)...

I believe you are genuine, and what u say make sense. Anyway, you don need to hear ppl tell you that.. I am just saying it because I believe this is the feelings of the visitors to your blog..

Your writing is simple and to the point, easy for simple folks like us to understand and execute.

Keep it up, and hve a great 2009!!

ws said...

sam,

i have stupid question. how come you unload few lot by few lot? they dont charge you brokerage fee one time and one time meh?

Samgoss said...

Ha ha..another childish act again by seng...seng counter offer with 8 mil now ! woww.... hello seng , u also endorsed that sam worth that much ar ? ha ha...t q seng.. sorry seng... 8 mil ? u can offer me 80 mil if u like..but talk only... talk is free mah... u hv 8 mil meh ? ha ha..show me d proof that u hv 8 mil lah..k..no need 8 mil..1 mil enuf liaoo... y not i offer u 800 mil ?? u may say..aiyahh sam..talk is free lah..get my point ?

Seng oh seng...my passbook is fake one ? ha ha ignorance bias ah ? well, whether my passbook is fake or not..it doesnt matter ... as long as my bank ac keep growing everyday that's most important..bukan ? ha ha....

Ha ha one more thing..how much my income per year got nothing to do with yr offer ... how confident r u saying that sam cant earn 4 mil per year ? ha ha..is ok..is ok.. tell u d truth..my annual income is only 10K .. equal to 1k per month..currently , I am pokai person.. owing ah long lot of money ..die liao die liao.... ha ha is this what u like to hear right ? ha ha...go ahead seng..if u think by cheating yrself will make u feel happy..well go ahead ^V^


Guy, let me tell u what seng will write in his blog after this... sam, I am now offering u 80 million..how sam ? ..

right seng ? ha ha

yah! btw..u dare not to take up my challenge meh ? aiyoooo yooo isn't it u tell ppl that yr TA is damn damn good ? y ? no confident meh ?

alfred said...

ha~ sam you keep "kek" him like that his balls gonna blow up...
(if he got the balls in the first place btw... lol)

Eric Kang said...

Hi Sifu Sam,
Sorry for needing to borrow your blog for commenting cause I don't think seng will publish my comment..

seng,
With all due respect, I think you make a mistake.
"You see, when you apply for a $40,000 per annum job (let's not talk about $4 Million per annum job), it is standard procedure for you to fill an H.R. form to state your name, your I/C number, your contact phone number, etc."

sam does not in the first place apply job to work for you.

"Why can't we deal like business-men?

I want to be your Manager."

When you ask for ppl's help/ guidance, do you start by saying 'i want to b your manager'?
example.. do you tell buffet 'eh warren, since u earn more than me, i wan to b your manager'

I believe Sam prefer a carefree life, and not tie down to fund management.

I believe Sam does not need to prove anything to you.
Most important is, his results speaks for himself.
Tenaga, Citi, AIG, UEMLand, ytlpwr-wb.. and so forth.

Thank you.

Regards,
Eric

GK said...

IOI維持派息率50%
即時新聞 國內財經 2009-01-12 16:41
(吉隆坡)雖然全球經濟開始放緩,但IOI集團(IOICORP,1961,主板種植組)相信,原棕油需求料持續回揚,價格劇烈波動格局將受控。

不過,分析員認為,此公司宏觀展望雖有改善,但原棕油昔日風光難返,加上產業臂膀銷售疲憊,盈利賺益恐持續受壓,因而下調其評級。

達證券在近期造訪IOI集團後如是分析。

IOI集團相信,原棕油需求料因人口增加而上漲3至4%。“歐洲和美國市場需求持續旺盛,主要由食品領域推動,而生物柴油業也出現復甦,特別是歐盟。目前,鹿特丹提煉廠已將20至30%產量出售於生物柴油和發電領域。”

此公司管理層表示,在2008年上半年,公司總違約率介於1萬至2萬公噸間,遠比340萬公噸提煉總產量為低,主要是歐盟、美國擁有良好信貸評級的買家成功轉移風險,相信隨著原棕油價格波動格局受控,違約率料趨向穩定。

此司不願對原棕油價作出預測,但透露舒適水平落在每公噸1800至2000令吉。達證券預測今年平均原棕油價將企於每公噸2000令吉。

鑒於原棕油價持續低迷,IOI集團管理層將採取積極現金流管理措施,但保證維持40至50%淨利派息率不變。


Sam, I am very sure that your pick SIME will be bombastic!!!!

Lost said...

I'm not a constant follower of either fusioninvestor or samgang. Once in a while I'll pop up and just have a quick read over each others recommendation.

But the other day when i was at whereiszemoola, there was a link to the $4 million proposal. Curiously, i read it and found the whole thing quite ammusing.

After reading the extremely long post (including his update on 12January 2009), I can only conclude that Sengs jealousy and envy is really driving him crazy. I can only imagine some childish person to have put so much effort into writting such a dumb proposal.

And his other supporters are even dumber. Especially those who are able to provide "audit services" + "personal money of RM2 million" + "RM 20 million from friend and family".

And for the statement on

g. What about sex? Do you think he pays for that or do you think he has a girlfriend or a wife? Add that to the expenditure.

What a low blow. Could you get even lower then that? Seng, please have some pride. Are you in a mid life crisis or something?

But enough of trying to justify of conclude the actions of a jealous man, but Sam, I really do feel sorry for you that you have to put up with some crazy old dude breathing down your neck. Nevertheless, keep up the good work over your investment track record. Cheers!

Unknown said...

Hi Sam,

would appreciate if you could remove my blog address from your main page. thanks.

u can leave the write up, just dont post up my contact, or link, or web page. Thanks

Samgoss said...

2 my sweet toof, as per yr request..done !

2 Grabiel "sau tol" or got it ^V^

let see how seng react to all these comments !?

FYI, warren buffet once said:- Success in investing doesn't correlate with I.Q. Once you have ordinary intelligence, what you need is the temperament to control the urges that gets other people into trouble in investing.


See ? heard what warren buffet said ? I am not here to show u guys how smart I am , My IQ is average only, if i can do it , u oso can ! I am here to show u guys which is d right method to be adopted in order 4 u to make some $$$ from shares mkt.

FA does not guarantee u 100% win, but to strike 80% of its success rate is not a problem at all if u adopted d right FA method.

Y i blog up my trades transactions ?

First is to tell u my pick b4 hand

second, u know my cost of buying , u cant be manipulated by me once u know my entry price.

Third.. as seng said..talk is free.. hence.. this is to shut his mouth up with d attached pictures !

Ah sour cow said I always bought b4 yr entry , hence i can make advantage on u guys..ha ha..fyi..some of u guys bought in ytlpwrwb, TNB,IJMWB,AASIA much cheaper than mine is that u called "Manipulation " ? ha ha..

Jealous n sour make no cure ^V^

I am now monitoring my baby US stock, see whether got chance to bu bac < my selling price or not ?

AIyahh pei tahan liaoo..2.08 am liaoo..need 2 go 4 kow kow g liao..

d nite ^V^

fountain said...

Hi Sam, why shd u be so bothered about that sick egoist. He is a man who only likes those who agree with his nonsence totally. So If I were you, just pretend he never existed, thats the best policy for those who cant tahan Seng from Fusion .