Monday, October 8, 2007

^V^ PE (4) How to fish ? n a girl with gun (right method) able to hunt tiger easier than a man using pillow (wrong method) to hunt ^V^


^V^

I am not saying stock with PE < 10 will definitely profit u ! but !!! at least u know what u r buying n u wont over pay for what u bought ^V^

No matter how, u still hv to take some risk even stocks that u bought r all below PE 10, everybody know how to buy LOW PE stock, but not everyone able to catch low PE stock with sustainable future earning ( here i am talking about sustainability of its future earning, of course if her earning jumped above yr forecast is even better ). D key success here is "Future earning "

Example

Stock X

Share price = 1.50

EPS for 2 qtrs = 15.64

Let presume that stock X managed to maintain such a good earning for d coming 2 qtrs , hence, 15.64cts x 2 = 31.28 cts for year 08 ^V^

If my forecasting turn to be good, 31.28 cts will translate its PE to 4.7 (21% return per year)with current price of 1.50, let assume d PE for its industry stood at 13+-, its fair value should be 13 x 31.28 = RM 4 + ! even PE 10 will still give u fair value of 3.10+ ^V^

D above r with d assumption that what u hv forecasted r in line with yr forecasting ^V^

What happen IF >>>>

What happen if d coming 2 qtrs turn to be an lousy one, presuming she running at huge loss with negative EPS of 30cts !??

let calculate again..

first 2qtrs EPS = 31.28, d other 2 qtrs giving u -0.30cts

D whole year EPS is now 31.28 - 0.30 = 1.28cts

yr PE is now 1.50/ 1.28 x 100 = 117 !!!

what is PE 117 stand for ?

PE 117 stand for 0.85 % return per year or u needs 117 years to recover what u hv invested ! (why buying such stock that giving u return of 0.8% if u can enjoy FD rate of 6.6 % with zero risk !??)


See ? future earning will determine d movement of yr share price ^V^

Then how to minimise yr risk from wrong picking ?

2 ways :-

1)Track earning records

Its 3 to 5 years track earning records : check d earning track records for stock like PBB, YTL , BAT , Maxis, IOI.... NO losses at all for past 10 years !!
That's y i always ask u ppl to follow those with track proven results blogger ..ha ha

2)What is on going now n years to come

example : We know 9mp is hot going n it will on going for another 2 to 3 years time, Mega projects need steel (http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.jsp?id=com.tms.cms.article.Article_6f4bdce6-cb73c03a-6798eb00-5043bd24 ) , cement, timber n ..... from here I know n confident that d coming 2 qtrs earning for masteel n onastel r definitely sustainable ^V^ hence, their coming earning will definitely in line with what i hv forecasted .


Guys, no easy n fast money from KLSE, we need to use brain n also d right method (FA) in order to acheive financial freedom from stock mkt. If Metastock really work as it is, why there r still ppl losing money after using it ? they may say bcos u r slow n dont know how to interprate it ! Excuse me ! this is IT world, they can programme in such a way that when d software detected a buy signal, alert u n u jump in ,same goes to sell^V^ dont tell me they cant do such a simple programming !! d only reason why they dare not to do that is bcos they r lack of confidence n need something to cover their ass.

What is d point if u born as a genius but adopted a wrong method ? a girl with gun (right method) can hunt tiger easier than a man using pillow (wrong method) to hunt ^V^ Think it over esp those who using TA method, am I not correct ?

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

very good explanation..but sam, how do u get the industry PE?

Benjamin said...

Fully agree with you Sam.

Good news announced by Bjcorp, it may clock in appx RM235million of profit in the coming qtr!!

Too bad, I am same as you Sam, I have disposed off all of shareholding in Bjcorp. :(

Anonymous said...

Sam,
Thanks for the simple explaination!
Looks like you have published one of your 'secrets' for all??? hahaha

Remember emetall?
Take care bro and 16888

Anonymous said...

good explaination.but sam, how do we know wat is its industry PE? is it the same as the normal PE?

Samgoss said...

no regret ben, noone can sell at high ^V^ further more there r plenty stocks for me to do swap.. hello Mr 2u..long time no chat, YM me if u free..provided i am also free lah..emetal ? not a bad hold.as for avg industry PE, u can get it from The edge or average all d stocks PE in d same industry, example..PE for property is around 12+-, plenitude is only at 7 $$$$$$ see d germs ?

Samgoss said...

published my secret ? almost lah... these r d basic analysis for newbies to know, sad to know, some of d bloggers out there still dont know how to use it though they understand d defination of PE. u can see that from d way they make calls.

Anonymous said...

Sam,
really thanks for u explaination..i understood wat it means already..so for newbie like me and many other of ur fans, where should we start from?

Lee said...

Sam.... this article couldn't come at a better time.. many many many thanks. Now at least I have a point to walk down the path of a decent stock pick.

One question, if u don't mind, how do we calculate the indices/industry PE?

Once again.. thanks for sharing.

Hmmm... you got give tuition class one or not?

cheerio.

Anonymous said...

uncle sam,

like to knw what FA books do you recommend?

cheers

Anonymous said...

hello sam,

i'm here after you mentioned this blog in your email to me ... looks like you've gathered another group of fans here, just like before ...

is tinglek and the rest here also?

cheers ...